Speaker 0:38

Welcome back, friends. Today's episode of Picture Love Podcast is multifaceted. You will hear a familiar voice. Linda is joining us again because she and I were having a delicious conversation about a category of science that has everything to do with choosing how we want to experience our own lives, and specifically through our DNA and our actual bodies. It's empowering, it's encouraging, it's uplifting, and I think that we accomplished a degree of humanizing a category of science called epigenetics. There is one sensitive subject that I would like to give fair warning. The topic of grief from a loss of a pregnancy. And for anybody who is grieving something right now and wants to hear how someone has been on a healing journey, a successful healing journey, I think you'll find this incredibly supportive. But everybody is in their own place, and I want to give you the awareness so you get to decide if you want to receive that story or not. You will know when she's about to share her story. She does it with courage, and generosity, and love. And I asked her, "Is this really okay to make this conversation public?" And she not only gave her blessing, she said, It's my hope that by sharing my story, I'm encouraging somebody else to feel seen, heard, or understood." I found it very relatable, even to other topics of grief and loss. So that is one example how she's using the tools that she's acquired on her journey and, I can't wait to see how it supports somebody else in the Picture Love community. Now we'll get started.

Kris LeDonne 2:33

you, shared the term epigenetics with me, and you shared, Bruce Lipton as a favorite author. He makes

LInda Farkas 2:40

it very popular. And it was around that time when there was also, research available on DNA molecule. Before it was not as much. Epigenetics are basically from a scientific point of view- natural controlled mechanisms. Think of it like chemical reactions if, if you want to, but mechanisms. Scientists, maybe before the s- early 2000s, they referred to something as ghosts in the genes. That there are, they know that there are mechanisms- in, in genes that would, change how they are expressed- without leaving a permanent mark on DNA. But they just didn't know. They couldn't really describe then what is, but there is something. There was something. Okay, so they were called, like, ghosts in the genes. So if you would like, like, the difference, DNA, gene, genome. Okay. Because we will use these terms.

Kris LeDonne 3:35

Yes, please clarify that.

LInda Farkas 3:37

Versus- DNA is a molecule. It's a building block. I will use an analogy of letters or parts of the books. DNA. Which is our just building blocks. It could be letters in the book or paper and ink. Genes are smaller part, segments of DNA. And they contain instructions. What proteins will be formed- and in what quantities. And in book, it would be a sentence or maybe a small paragraph. And then there's a genome, which is the whole book. Thank you All of the DNA we have- in a living organism. So we go from DNA, genes, to genome. The, the one, explanation I think it was a very, very good example, was from... He was one of the key scientists, on, explaining the human genome- His name was Ricardo Sabatini. And he used this analogy. He said a human genome is like one... Imagine 100-page book. And that would be a human genome. And it's only the last five pages of that book that our genes that we are born with. So we are born with the genes, okay? And it's only the last five pages of that book that are fixed genes. And the rest, this 95, are epigenetics, which are basically switches. That switch on and off our genes, whether they will be active, expressed, or not. Just because we have a gene doesn't mean that it will be active. So most of it is epigenetics. Epigenetics literally means above or around genetics, okay? So we've like fixed five, last five genes- of that 100 pages book, and the rest is epigenetics, these mechanisms- that are influencing the genes that we are born with, okay? So we are born with the genes. Another, another good example is their hard drive. So we are born with our DNA and our, and the genes. So genes, remember- this more specific segment of DNA, we are born with it, our hard drive. And everything that a cell does is controlled by hard drive.

Kris LeDonne 5:50

Okay.

LInda Farkas 5:51

Okay? So that's how important genes and DNA is. But a hard drive cannot work without software. And that software package is epigenetics.

Kris LeDonne 6:00

This is exciting.

LInda Farkas 6:01

Yeah. And it's happening all the time. Epigenetic effects are happening all the time.

Kris LeDonne 6:08

We're just not always aware of it.

LInda Farkas 6:10

Of course we're not.

Kris LeDonne 6:11

But we do have the potential to choose how we affect it.

LInda Farkas 6:16

Genes are, piano keys. Okay? Oh. So there are genes, piano keys. Epigenetics are the pianist. And choices like meditations- We'll, we'll get to more examples, but let's use meditation visualization within our community- are Mozart. oh. So imagine what it does to the whole- Oh you know, playing the piano. I just get chills. If you choose to play something so beautiful, these lifestyle choices that are healthy- that- opposite of stress, the opposite of c- resulting in chaos, so healthy. They are like choosing to play Mozart on the piano. Wow. Or Beethoven. Someone even said Beethoven, yes. That's even, like, better than, uh- Yes yeah, they love the center because they, they felt closer to God when they were playing Beethoven on piano. But it's like this, choosing to play Mozart, okay? Yeah.

Kris LeDonne 7:08

That's awesome.

LInda Farkas 7:09

So the question: Does going out or having conversation with your soul sister, does it cause epigenetic changes, effects? Of course it does. Deciding to go outside on a beautiful day to get some sunshine, or catching up on sleep, or eating delicious meal, or enjoying your time with your babies- the lifestyle choices. So it comes to, to the choices. Now, we are talking about this epigenetic, effects. So for example- a disease, some diseases are caused by genes, but remem- it's not a gene, it's a mutated gene. That's number one. And it's not just one gene, it's 50 to several- hundred genes, okay? Remember, we don't imagine that they're just one gene that we have- and it causes this kind of disease. In '80s when this epigenetic became a term, that there are like heritable changes, and genes, that interact with the environment. So just because you inherit a gene that causes schizophrenia- Doesn't mean that you will develop schizophrenia depends on your lifestyle. Depends on your lifestyle choice. It depends on the environment you're in, but that's, again, that's connected to the choices you, that you make for yourself. How deeply you are willing to work on yourself. Like, you go deep and you just, explore what do you believe in, what thought forms you give your life force to. Okay? If you give your life force to the thought, to the belief that it's actually thought that I will have schizophrenia, that's it, then you will have schizophrenia, and there's nothing- if there are these epigenetic mechanisms- that will silence the genes- you will not have schizophrenia.

Kris LeDonne 8:57

Right.

LInda Farkas 8:57

Right. Okay? So just, so just because you have the gene doesn't mean it will be- active. It's not a death sentence. It can be silenced. It is not. It is not. Absolutely, it is not set in stone, there are certain things that are, there are not much we, we can do, but they form only, like, really, really small, small, small part. And most, most of the genes that will lead to, let's say some, developing some tumors, classic cancer tumors and this, that, they could be silenced. Are literally switched off.

Kris LeDonne 9:30

Like going into your settings- of your smartphone and turning off the toggle for some of these markers is, is what you're referring to. Some of them are switchable, and a very few of them are fixed.

LInda Farkas 9:45

Very few of them are fixed. Right. Exactly. Okay. So our- Yeah uh, in Bruce Lipton's Biology of Belief, basically, it talks about how our stressful lifestyle- can change a healthy gene into a diseased gene.

Kris LeDonne 10:01

Okay. I, can I interrupt really quick about Bruce Lipton? Yeah. So I'm just beginning the book. I'm a couple chapters in, and one of the things I love about this read, for anybody listening to this and curious about epigenetics, it's written for the everyday reader. It's not- Mm-hmm written in scientific language that only scientists can understand. Only necessary. Right. Right. He uses scientific terms as appropriate, but gives you the understanding and the context to know what he's saying. So I can tell you- I understand it, and therefore it's open- Right to the masses. Right. But carry on.

LInda Farkas 10:42

Yeah. Uh, yeah. And I, I think part of his charisma- is to make it as popular as possible, and his background-

Kris LeDonne 10:49

Yeah

LInda Farkas 10:49

gives him exactly what he need. And the thing that he decided to change the career and, like, and he, what he discovered, but he felt like, "This is what I need to bring to, to everybody who is willing- to listen." And it's not contained in lab, or for scientists. It's for us. It's for everybody. It's for everyone. And it's, like, how- Forever you know, and now think of this. What's... It's the best investment, your investment of your life force, of your time, of all the most valuable resources, than into something that you know can change your life. And not just your life, because those are inheritable things. You pass this down. Okay? You pass on to next generation. The thing. Because that's when they realized that genes interact with the environment, that was in '40s. They didn't have, tools, language, and everything else to say what it was. They were not even ready for this, I guess. We were not ready. Yeah, we inherit it. Speaking of which, uh, Bruce Lipton, he was the first one who said Matrix, the movie, the movie series- it's a documentary. It's a documentary. That's not a fantasy movie. And Matrix we live in, in matrix of our beliefs, what we believe in. And sounds like nothing, but if you ask most people, "What do you believe in?" Do you think that they can't easily answer unless they really go deep. Yeah. They sit down with themselves, and they do this work, what do you believe? What thoughts you have, you- you don't know where you get them from, but you have them, and you believe in them. Now it's something that they realize, like we need high caliber tools. We need mystical, we need to go mystical resilience. And one of such tool is You find sacred place for yourself, and you really go through the thought forms that you know you have. And you start, like you keep those that calms you down, that make you feel good. And you find a way how to cut the energetic cord, how to detach- and cut this energetic connection to the thoughts that result in chaos in your life. Yeah. And it makes you feel stressed in any way. I'm too old for something, for example. Oh, yeah. That's very common. Yeah. But that's one of the thought forms. Yeah.

Kris LeDonne 13:04

Right. Like, "I'm too old- Too old to go play."

LInda Farkas 13:06

Or, "I'm at this age- Oh, and I should be sick. I, I should be sick," you know? Mm-hmm. "And probably I will have, you know, I will develop some kind of cancer, tumor." Right. Like, ugh. I'm speaking from my own experience, but this is, my personal core belief. Those who are authority to us in some way, could be teachers- Yes doctors certainly. Right. Because you go them, you're sick, you're afraid, you, you need to... What else- Yeah do you... Yeah. What else- Yeah what other choice you have than to trust... You go to the doctor and- Right not trust the doctor, then don't go to the doctor. Why would you even bother- Right going to the doctors? Right. But that's how we work. We trust, "Please help," and that they will help us. And if you hear something like this, "One day you will need this," oh, or this, that's such, such strong download into your system into every cell. Mm-hmm. It, it's, like, if you don't catch it as soon as you can, and you really need to work to contritive, it's like sometimes you have to even erase a memory, the look on their face, you know, like, oh, something is wrong. Oh my God. Or they tell you. Actually takes a, a lot of work because you are afraid- you're vulnerable in that place. So you're, like, open and you'll, you absorb everything they say when they tell you- "One day this and this," or, "This will lead to this and this," because in their experience so those who are responsible- They should really weigh everything they say, uh, you know? Yeah. Because that's how- Yeah they transfer, these beliefs, thought forms like, like this. And, I had my own experience. Someone who was, a teacher, trusted teacher authority, and she said something to me which was stressful to me. It, it was. It caused a stress. But I didn't believe, but I, I was inclined to believe because I always trusted. And, and I, then I was like, "You can't just say something like this to someone who you- you know you are the authority for- Yeah or someone who trusts you." And now the thing is, and what Bruce Lipton also says, it doesn't matter when, who told you. If you know when and where or who told you, you, you are better equipped. You can do this work. You can go back, rewrite this. It's great, but there are a lot of things that we have in our belief system, in our metrics, and we don't know who told us- and you don't have to go, like, to therapy and, complain what they did to you. You just go, you know, you uncover. You look for those beliefs. You, you really are- doing this work, and then you choose, then it becomes a choice for you. Now I know I have this. Now- is it good for me, or does it result all in chaos? Which one is it? Which one do you want to keep? That's the first step, and that what they said. This is what we can do. And this is not about pointing fingers who did this and this. This is not. But it's beautiful if you know. If it's this, I have- Yeah one example on my own. You can do... And, and, and then you know what to do, what kind of- work you can do and what you need to do for yourself- which is beautiful. What you, you can go back and write.

Kris LeDonne 16:25

Maybe there's something that is so normal to us we don't realize- that there was some epigenetics activating something we don't want activated, you know? So my point is awareness.

LInda Farkas 16:35

Now, the thing is always us, but it's threaded with someone else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, someone else- but they didn't activate it for us. We activate it for ourselves. But when we are kids- we don't have sophisticated mechanism to work consciously with these things. The psychology is less sophisticated, so it is like it's, it's done, it's done onto us, but because we are kids and, that's why they say that the first six, seven years are our core beliefs because we are sponges. We have- no resilience. We have no sophisticated psychology to discern: good, not good, this is what I want. That's the only reason. If I may- share my example, was the... I don't know when it began, but in our family, our parents- I think they were not the first one to have driving license, but became more and more common that people would drive the cars. And we are three sisters, at home, our mom was talking how stressful it is to drive a car- how dangerous it is. And all sorts of stuff around driving a car. She was a driver, but she was talking about this in this way, and she wasn't relaxed driver. But she drove. She, she drove a car. And then it was time for us to get our driving license, and we were all excited to get our driving license. There was nothing to assume that it would be stressful for us. But all of us, all three of us, have great difficulties with, like, once we start driving car, it became stressful. And we didn't know, like, why? There was no obvious reason, but we felt stressed driving a car. We all got our driving licenses eventually, but we all, each one of us, had to actually heal this, that it's not stressful. It's okay. We became good drivers, but we have to go through something that we didn't know where it came from. We were never involved in a car accident, something that would really cause this stress from driving I know it's faster for all of us, but also in my case. And I, every time when I was, like, driving, When I was in present moment, I was like, "That's fun. That's great." I was even enjoying. Like, there's... Why should I be stressed? But every time I wasn't very present or when I was just thinking about driving to a new place, especially to a new place, boom, stressed. I was, I felt stress and it felt like, uh, will I ever become a driver, everyday driver, if I need to drive, then I will simply drive a car? it took me, some time to realize it's absolutely okay. It wasn't my belief that driving was difficult, stress or anything like this. For me, driving was fun. Yes. Driving was useful. Driving was a great thing that I could even enjoy, but I had to be very present. So this was, for me, this was something quite big that I had to actually rewrite the software in me that was not installed by me. But by listening and hearing this over the years, you know, like feeding this belief that it wasn't mine, but it was in my software. It was in my metrics of, of belief. Yeah. And it was so true for me. And when I started this work, I knew exactly where it came from.

Kris LeDonne 19:46

We need to choose better software for our hardware.

LInda Farkas 19:49

Right. We need to upgrade.

Kris LeDonne 19:53

Yes. We need updates, clean out the cache.

LInda Farkas 19:58

And imagine in this, in this time I've been working in a research, and I know the technology was progressing so fast that we were looking for a piece of equipment that was, like, the best creme de la creme on the market now. But we know that in half a year there will be something even better. It goes so fast. And that's the hardware. That's a, that's like machine. In technology, think of new form of intelligence or artificial intelligence. Everything last year is obsolete now.

Kris LeDonne 20:27

You know what? Yeah. Coming back to the epigenetics and the software and the technology, if 95% of our switches are not fixed- Mm we could, we could change more rapidly than computer technologies

LInda Farkas 20:42

We can. Imagine you choose one foundational, something that's healthy, and you can do this. It will be like domino effect. The rest can follow if you're willing to go on that journey- and not resisting But start with something that feels good- and healthy to you.

Kris LeDonne 21:05

Whether it's diet or movement or thought or-

LInda Farkas 21:11

Yes

Kris LeDonne 21:12

any of those things. Those are all ways that we can use epigenetics in our favor, instead of just involuntarily letting the epigenetics happen.

LInda Farkas 21:24

Because it's happening all the time.

Kris LeDonne 21:27

Manufacturer settings are, are... That's why, that's why we can customize the smartphone, right? Because manufacturer settings- it's just a starting point. It's not a one-size-fits-all- Ah right? Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. And that's

LInda Farkas 21:44

not a destiny we were born with, something- something we cannot change. But there are so many things that we can affect, we can change for our better self. We can, but we were not taught that we could do this- Yeah for ourself, to ourselves, and to the generations to come, because the, this will be changes- they will inherit, the next generation from us, just like we did. But because we are born with these genes, it doesn't mean that That's it. Genes can be, like, how they are expressed, how they, how they figure out what proteins to create in what amounts, this we can affect. And we won't change the, the underlying DNA. Isn't that amazing, just, just thinking about this? Like, on a cellular level?

Kris LeDonne 22:28

Yes.

LInda Farkas 22:29

And everything that we experience, everything is stored in cell memories.

Kris LeDonne 22:33

Yes.

LInda Farkas 22:33

How amazing is this? And things- So Like visualization, they work on cellular level. That's- Mm-hmm that's the great thing.

Kris LeDonne 22:41

Just like music, it definitely- works on a cellular level. Like cells on a, on a slide and effects of them when they're flourishing with sound and then- when the sound changes or stops, the cell responds, right?

LInda Farkas 22:59

Yeah.

Kris LeDonne 22:59

So if somebody wanted to explore epigenetics, like experiment with themselves for the better- what what would they do to experience how they can affect- their own switches? What would be something fun and practical- Now? Besides obviously come meditate with us? This is not a shameless plug. This is a- This is just- Lets us experience epigenetics.

LInda Farkas 23:25

I've been experiencing this with meditation itself, and we didn't have to talk about epigenetics, just meditation and-

Kris LeDonne 23:33

Yeah

LInda Farkas 23:33

what it does and, and all the research that supports this. The greatest obstacle of something even like come meditate with us and see for yourself was, were expectations. So if I'm expecting this session, this meditation will bring me this___, most probably it won't Right because it won't be a surrender practice. I would say, try to find a way, and I'm sure we all have what it takes, find a way To do something that feels good, whatever it is, could be a very small thing, and not wanting something out of this. Not because they need it or they want something, just do it because "I want to play". It calms me down", or something like this in those line, but don't want anything out of this or, or don- be- just because you need this. But doing something, okay? And it could mean a lot of things to anybody. And if they commit to this, I'm sure it will be just the beginning, that they will find more things. They will be led to other thing, not because they need it, not because they want something out of this, but because it will heal them- without even them realizing how much. Every single thing that they decide is such an investment, such an investment into themselves. Just, pick something. Pick something. Anything, really. And I'm sure anyone can come up with something that... And start small. That's, that's a very good piece of advice. Does it help?

Kris LeDonne 25:13

No, it definitely does. And while you were sharing, I was kind of remembering that there are lots and lots of social media accounts where somebody says, "I heard this really helped somebody, so I'm just curious." Mm. "I'm gonna try this for 30 days and see what happens." Mm-hmm. Yeah. And to me, that sounds like openness versus expectations. 'Cause expectations- Mm cause resistance, right? And curiosity creates openness for something beautiful to happen. Because, you know, if we say, like you're... You mentioned looking for a new place to live, and if you said, "It's gonna look like this. The name of the street is going to be this. The color of the house is going to be this. The bathroom floors are gonna look like this," you're causing more resistance than saying something like, I am open to finding my next home that feels really, really good." And the openness versus the resistance leaves it possible for you to be amazed that it's something better than what you looked for in the first place.

LInda Farkas 26:27

Yeah. And also, remember, there is no such thing as a perfect choice they're the same because it changes- Yeah in time what's perfect now- I assure you that in a week, month, maybe in next hour, it won't be perfect anymore. Or, or what's 70% perfect will be in a month 100% perfect So let's just take this pressure off yourself. Yeah If you're looking for something- there's no perfect way to start this- or choice that you're going to make there's no such thing. Just something that feels good. Remember, if it feels good, it's good. If it feels good to you in whatever way- it's good.

Kris LeDonne 27:05

We gave kind of two different kinds of suggestions, the ego likes something tangible, measurable, like I'm gonna whisper thank you into my glass every time I take a sip, you know, and build gratitude. But just choosing differently, thinking differently-

LInda Farkas 27:22

Mm that's a first step you choose to

Kris LeDonne 27:25

think-

LInda Farkas 27:25

Yeah that you, that will

Kris LeDonne 27:26

open

LInda Farkas 27:26

you- to new

Kris LeDonne 27:27

things And

LInda Farkas 27:28

our choices are the things that will, will follow

Kris LeDonne 27:31

You know, when saying I want my coffee to taste good is an expectation. But tasting it, and if it doesn't feel good, I have the option to pour it out and grab a glass of tea or water, right? Oh, my gosh Instead of saying, "My expectations were not met. It is not good. I don't like this." You know what? I'm being silly. It's a silly- Good

LInda Farkas 27:53

example. Very,

Kris LeDonne 27:54

very

LInda Farkas 27:54

good example

Kris LeDonne 27:55

But it's... Yeah, yeah, the mindset, right?

LInda Farkas 27:57

The mindset is, the mindset is everything Is

Kris LeDonne 28:00

everything

LInda Farkas 28:00

I do remember I was, uh, last year at the end of the year, I had a health issue. And I'll use a very specific example I was pregnant and I lost the baby, but I had no symptoms. I didn't know that the baby, is gone. And I needed a... Well, the better way, is to have a surgery to, like, to, remove and clean the uterus. And I thought that this should be dealt as an emergency, like right away. First, that's, that's what I thought, like, well, right away, otherwise it would be dangerous also to me, because that's what I was told, like previously. I had no idea about this, but that was like, "Okay, do something now." And I got the appointment two weeks later, and now I have a choice, and that was the best I, I could get. To be angry and start to complain how I'm caring and then they would leave me in this, and it would be dangerous for me, and you know. Or I chose instead very calmly say, "Okay, this is what we have. My body is strong enough to carry this for next two weeks, and I will be just fine. My body is this strong enough." So these two weeks, and it was a choice. I chose- to think this way. It was very, very helpful. It wasn't dangerous or anything. Ev- everything was okay. My body healed very, very, very quickly after the surgery. But for the two weeks I had two options which way I would go. Yeah. To stress about this-

Kris LeDonne 29:48

Yes

LInda Farkas 29:48

how it's going to affect my, my body, my health, my future plans to start a family. Or to believe and to choose to believe that my body's strong enough to handle- to handle this situation for next two weeks. And it was. I don't know what the reality would be if I chose otherwise, but I'm sure it will be a very different reality for me. Mm-hmm,

Kris LeDonne 30:10

yes.

LInda Farkas 30:10

And I don't know how my body would, would be able to handle if I, if I wouldn't be able to support my body with m- the mindset, for example.

Kris LeDonne 30:18

First of all, thank you so much for sharing that very personal story. I know that was a very difficult time for you, and it, you know, it, it teaches us a lot of things that we didn't expect to have to learn, right?

LInda Farkas 30:32

Believe me, I gained more than I lost. Now I know. I wouldn't want to be a person I was before that experience. It was a hard, a very, very difficult experience, and very painful, but I gained so much from this experience.

Kris LeDonne 30:47

And I'm so glad that your body is as strong. Because I'm so grateful that you're, here with me. And thank you. Thank you.

LInda Farkas 30:57

What, what it showed me and what it taught me as well, the last year I went through, this was one, and there was another one, that our bodies can heal themselves. But it, there is something that's required, and that's the activation. So it can heal, but there must be a mechanism that we have to trigger this, the self-healing. It will heal itself to certain extent, or maybe to completely from something, but it needs to be activated.

Kris LeDonne 31:30

Hmm.

LInda Farkas 31:30

Epigenetics.

Kris LeDonne 31:31

Epigenetics.

LInda Farkas 31:33

The very right mindset and- but there's like series of, of lifestyle choices what you are going to do. I'm going to treat myself much kinder. I will not blame myself. I will not beat myself up. I will eat healthy food. I will go to bed early because I know that sleep is exactly what I need. I would find every day a sacred place for myself. I would give my body, the support that it needs, whatever it means. Do I need to move more? I will. Mm-hmm. And I commit to moving every day. You know, this, it's, it's, it's never one thing. It might begin with one small thing, but it just opens door to other things.

32:16

You also could be doing all the right things and not realizing it. And do you think- by putting the intention of, "Well, I do all these things because I love myself," could be turning a switch on? What do you think? Because if, somebody goes to the gym- if they do the exercise, if they do all the right things, but they're doing it in a stressful state because they feel like they have to, then those self-healing switches- Yes aren't really on, are they?

LInda Farkas 32:43

No. You are right. That's what the scientists say, when you do this because you love yourself, you are able to start the mechanisms in your body. Because you can even, cease the mechanism by choice, by judging. Judgment is a big one- Yes for example.

Kris LeDonne 32:58

Right.

LInda Farkas 32:58

Okay? Being negative, but like judging, I know that if you are judging and you sitting to meditation, there's no way your heart and your brain will communicate with each other. Right. Now, if you do it because you love yourself, there is a healing chemistry in your body. Okay? That's, proven now. Yeah. On epigenetics level, that's exactly. Start making choices because you love yourself.

Kris LeDonne 33:24

That makes my heart flutter,

LInda Farkas 33:26

because- Not because you need it, not because- Yes you heard that epigenetics- Yes will-

Kris LeDonne 33:30

Yeah

LInda Farkas 33:30

you know, heal you.

Kris LeDonne 33:31

Yeah.

LInda Farkas 33:32

Or you want to get something out of this- Right whatever it is. Right. But because you love yourself.

Kris LeDonne 33:39

Yeah. I think that's my life mission, honestly, is, is to cause or be the permission slip or just influence people to love themselves. I don't mean overinflate. I don't mean put yourself above anybody else. I just mean go within and truly love, who you are and know you're so much more than a body.

LInda Farkas 34:03

Aw. Like fall in love, fall in love with the power you are-

Kris LeDonne 34:07

yes. We're so much more than a

LInda Farkas 34:09

body. Your mission is, like, so people will fall in love with themselves and the power that they are.

Kris LeDonne 34:13

Is there, is there anything that we need to share in this particular container about epigenetics, self-love, switching on the genes, the factors that you think are most relevant just right now, knowing this is an ongoing conversation? I think

LInda Farkas 34:35

for now it's, it's, it's just introduction. But, uh- Yeah it, it's so that someone gets the feeling with, that epigenetics are the mechanisms that are changeable, that they're mutable, and they're happening all the time. And we are, like, playing the piano, all of us are playing the piano all the time. So just choose Chopin or Mozart

Kris LeDonne 34:53

don't compare yourself. Don't

LInda Farkas 34:54

compare.

Kris LeDonne 34:54

But come in with the intention, right?

LInda Farkas 34:56

Yeah. With the intention, like for yourself- Yeah because you love yourself.

Kris LeDonne 35:00

Yeah.

LInda Farkas 35:01

And this is happening all the time. There's so much we can do for ourselves that we have no idea, because we are not taught that there is this much that we really can do for ourselves, and therefore for the collective, for others. It's never just for ourselves. It's never. I assure you. If you even think that you did for yourself because you love yourself- Yes not just you influence, you know, those around you, but even those that will come after you. It sounds selfish, but it's the least selfish thing that you could do for yourself, because you do it for others as well. Not because you want to do something for others, not because they need you to do something for them, or you want something out of this. No. Again, it's because you love yourself. That is reason enough. This love yourself, that's also something that might not make sense, even to, to past me some years ago, what it really means or how to begin. This is what I found out for myself, that it might be difficult to begin. Like, where, where should I begin to love myself? So for me- Choose it. Choose. Choose to love yourself. Make a choice and see- where it goes, how it feels. Choose it. No one else will choose it for you. It's a choice. You don't want to live your life hating yourself, being disappointed in yourself. You want to go through this life being madly in love with yourself and with the power you are. So choose it.

Kris LeDonne 36:31

I love that. That's so beautiful.

LInda Farkas 36:33

Why not? Why not?

Kris LeDonne 36:36

I have one more story 'cause it just happened. My oldest daughter is a very talented flute player, composer and teacher. And this past weekend, her students in the middle school and high school had their regional auditions for these more advanced bands. Seven of her students not only get in, but advance. And the thing that she was the most amazed with was the student who placed the highest, because three days before that she broke her pointer How does a flutist place that high with a broken finger? I mean, her- it's all colors. Yellow, black, blue with a splint. So she took it off to, for the audition. But she placed that well. I don't believe it's because she was the most talented musician. It was her intention. She wasn't trying to be Mozart or Beethoven or the next great flute player. She went in with expectations of just playing instead of placing above other people. So when she released the expectations- Mm of her outcome,

LInda Farkas 38:06

she- She could access that part of her- She did

Kris LeDonne 38:09

that wouldn't

LInda Farkas 38:09

be accessible-

Kris LeDonne 38:10

Yes,

LInda Farkas 38:11

yes if she had these expectations.

Kris LeDonne 38:13

Yes.

LInda Farkas 38:14

Right? She opened.

Kris LeDonne 38:15

Yes, she opened. And even with a broken finger- She became

LInda Farkas 38:19

a vessel

Kris LeDonne 38:19

she- She became a vessel she placed the highest. With a broken finger! So to me, that was a living example of epigenetics. Because she'd even admitted to my daughter, "I think it's because I stopped stressing out about how good I'm gonna play, and I just did it." Isn't that beautiful?

LInda Farkas 38:42

Wow, and no expectations.

Kris LeDonne 38:43

Yeah. Zero

LInda Farkas 38:44

expectations.

Kris LeDonne 38:45

Yeah. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. I, I love that. Beautiful. My daughter called me and said, "Now I get to call these families and congratulate them." I'm like- Oh "Enjoy those phone calls."

LInda Farkas 38:55

You just want to wish and congratulate. Even this is happening all the time. This is also part of epigenetics. So remember, it's not like okay, now I plan epigenetics effects- and it will be big, and this is what I want out of this, and it will be today.

Kris LeDonne 39:11

Right. Right.

LInda Farkas 39:12

Okay?

Kris LeDonne 39:13

But when you love yourself, you don't do that to yourself.

LInda Farkas 39:16

Perfect

Kris LeDonne 39:16

even talking about is flipping on positive switches in me.

LInda Farkas 39:21

Right. Right. Yeah, and maybe silencing some other genes that- Yeah you are turning... even if there would be something, you are turning your genes into healthy genes this way.

Kris LeDonne 39:31

Yes, yes, yes. Yes. Beautiful. Yes. So-

LInda Farkas 39:35

So to our healthy genes.

Kris LeDonne 39:37

Yes, to our

LInda Farkas 39:38

healthy genes. Have these conversations.

Kris LeDonne 39:40

Yes, yes.

LInda Farkas 39:41

Every day, all day. I mean, every time you feel like it not wanting anything out of it. You are investing into you and into everybody else. So what's better? Win-win.