Picture Love

Meet Spirituality With Sam

July 30, 2024 Kris LeDonne Season 1 Episode 49

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What does being a RN in an ICU and being a spiritual mentor have in common?
Sam Simmons joins us on Picture Love, to share wisdom, stories and a broader perspective on this and many other topics.
This episode dives deep into a spiritual conversation, making space for all ranges of beliefs whether you're open to religion, spirituality or simply a love for nature and humanity.
 
You'll be uplifted by her passion for personal growth and paving the way for others to explore their own journey. She cares deeply about making a positive impact and has tools to empower, support and even laugh with her clients, students, and members of her various and audiences.
 
No stranger to "wierd" questions, Sam holds safe space to explore the what ifs life offers but we often hesitate to speak out loud... she models what a cooperative relationship with ones' personal guides can be like.

A bit about our guest:
Sam is a former ICU RN who ditched the matrix for a more aligned life. Having been tapped in her entire life, her first big spiritual awakening happened at the height of the pandemic. She's fine tuned her clairvoyance and now coaches and channels for others who are also looking for that aligned, better-feeling life. She channels guides, Source Energy, and helps people connect back to their higher self while discovering who they truly are along the way. Living in North Carolina, she's a mom to two crazy gingers who keep the energy weird and  electric. She loves the energy of the Blue Ridge Mountains, gardening, and balancing the spiritual with the physical.
Enroll in her free 5 day spirit guides class, or check out her membership and client offerings on her NEW website: www.SpiritualityWithSam.com
Or find her on socials as @SpiritualityWithSam

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Hello friends. I'm so excited to share this conversation with you. You're going to get to hear an interview I held with a mentor and friend somebody I truly, truly adore. Her name is Sam Simmons, also called spirituality, Sam on social media. I will link up all of her opportunities in the show notes for this episode. She's a former registered nurse in the ICU. She currently is a spiritual leader and lives in North Carolina. And is raising two amazing teenagers and comes to us with such a deep compassion for serving others and shares my passion for personal growth. So without further ado, sam, thanks so much for spending a little bit of time with me here on picture love. It's just such a joy to be in your presence. Hi, good morning. Yes. I'm so glad to be here. Now we are both speaking from the U. S. Both in the same time zone, which is a little unusual for me because I tend to connect with people who have to maneuver other time zones. So I can say good morning to you. And yeah, that's kind of odd for me as well. I have clients all over the world. And so to be in the same time zone is refreshing. Yeah, it is. And for those who can't see me, See you because they're listening to the podcast on audio. I'm admiring your beautiful, plants in your background. I know that's something that we have in common and I brought some of my friends to keep me company as well. Is gardening a big part of your life or is it just kind of how you nest your space? I actually didn't get into outdoor gardening until this past year or so. Yeah, it was indoor plants and my living room started to look a little bit like a jungle, which is not a bad thing. And I realized I'm running out of space here. I think it's time to just buckle up and learn how to do this on the outside. And it's so funny because it's so much easier to grow plants outside than inside. I love plants and I've got a front garden that I just adore and I'm just figuring it out as I go. It's so fun. And I've my backyard. I've done this re wild thing. I don't know if you've heard about it where you just let the lawn go just completely feral. And we're, we're mowing, paths through and around the edges. So it's a little bit kept up, but mostly we're just letting all the wildflowers and plants and everything. Or, and it's so beautiful back there. Now I want to see a picture. That sounds amazing. The reason I brought this up is I know that not just your branding, but your person. You are a highly, highly spiritual person. You're a spiritual leader. And I think that connection with plants and nature is so integral. It's just part of who you are when you're tapping into a very spiritual being. Yeah. Well, cause it's easy as we get into the day to day of our responsibilities for just being a human and existing here, you know, the structure that we have set up for our societies. It's so easy to forget our connection to those things. And when you're outside gardening, or just walking in your yard, or whatever it is, you automatically reconnect those things and it's so beautiful. It just feels like home when you do that, and it regrounds you, it re centers you, it calms you down. I mean, it does have physiological benefits as well. And I know that you're aware that I also have an ICU nurse background as an ICU nurse for about 10 years. And there are studies that have shown that have proven so many benefits to being outside and it's because of that connection back to who we really are, because Gaia, the earth is a living, breathing being, just like we are right. And that energy is so reminiscent of our, the ethereal connection that we have right of where our souls reside. And it just is that. It just feels comfortable, right? Like you can settle into it. It feels familiar and it's just, it's nice. It allows you to not get so lost in the humdrum of daily life. Yeah, you know, I think that I love living so close to New York City. I'm in New Jersey and I love that. I have access to, like, the excitement and the things to do and, you know, all the draw of the busy city, but I'm so grateful when I'm walking through and they see something like Central Park happened and there's just that that lush pop up of nature because we're humans, and we're not really meant to be surrounded by just cement and metal and cut off from the sky and the ground below. And for somebody who's about to check out, because they think I kill plants. I don't have a green thumb. Can you talk to me a little bit just for a minute about connecting with nature without having to necessarily grow it? And I'll give you an example that inspired the question is just being out of my backyard, barefoot under my tree, feet in the grass. And I'm not necessarily growing anything, but I'm just feeling, my wellness come back to me. And I'm finding it easier to breathe. Can we go there for just a few minutes? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to grow things to be out in nature and appreciate it and get the benefits. Although I will be honest, the longer you are out in nature, the more time you spend out in nature, it's going to become increasingly more difficult to not want to grow things and plant things in the ground. And so. And I just want everybody to know you don't have to be perfect at it. You don't even have to know what you're doing. Seeds are like these little teeny tiny miracles that we have. It's amazing what they can do, and they don't really need your help. They just need you to get it started and let it be, put your hands off, let it go, allow it to grow, and it's amazing what can happen. My, one of my favorite things to tell my clients to do when they're feeling a little bit chaotic or not sure of their direction is to go outside and stand barefoot in the grass or put your feet in some naturally flowing water, like a stream or a river, or even walk out into the ocean, if you have that available to you, any kind of natural flowing water. I mean, I am a Pisces, so I'm really drawn to water, but water is really strong too. And if you think of it. Really, any of the elements can do the grounding for you. As long as you sit there and breathe, you have to slow your thoughts down and stop focusing on all the things running through your mind and instead feel what's happening in your present moment. Right? That's how you do it. You just let go of all the other stuff. The other stuff's not going to go away when you have those thoughts that pop into your head. You know, those little anxiety thoughts of I have to do this or have to do that. Let it go. Recognize that thought for what it is and let it float right back out of your brain just as easily as it came back in. It will come back later. It's not like you've lost it forever. Allow yourself to be present in that moment. And by doing that, you gain so much clarity on what it is that you actually are meant to be doing or, directions to find your own happiness, things like that. All you have to do is sit there and feel it, right? Exercise your senses while you're out there. That's all you need to do. Touch a tree, right? Feel the breeze on your face. Things like that. It's that easy. Yeah. It's like give your brain. A break and let the other senses have a chance, so maybe those other senses are ways of. Tapping into our body and letting our body give us information and set it right. Yeah. Cause it's all about balance, right? You don't want your brain to be pulling a hundred percent of the weight. You have all of these other senses for a reason. Your brain is not meant to go 24 seven. And it's funny that you bring this up because I was just telling one of my clients in my mastermind that I hold this morning, actually just minutes before we came onto this podcast. She was trying to, I know the synchronicities, she was trying to think her way out of a situation instead of feeling it because the feelings were uncomfortable. But when you start to think your way out of a situation, that's the equivalent of trying to work your body out 24 7. Right? Your body can't do that. It needs rest and your brain needs rest, too. So when you try to out think yourself or think yourself outside of a situation, what you're really doing is saying that you don't trust your feelings. You don't trust your emotions, and you don't want that very important side of yourself. Well, that leaves you to feel disconnected, right? So then you actually are getting further and further away from the answers while you're sitting there. Spinning your wheels and trying to out think yourself. You have to have this balance between thinking and feeling. Can you speak to that from your nurse background? Where I would like to go is I think it just naturally connects to how does somebody go from being a nurse to a spiritual coach and leader and they might seem very different. But you and I know they're very, very related. Yeah. Yeah. They do seem very different, but they really are so similar. So I've always been spiritual, whether I realized it or not. And I went through this period. I think most people go through where you ignore all the spiritual gifts and you shove them deep down and you try to be a woman of the world. Right? And you try to tap into all of those things. But then you kind of lose more and more of yourself as you're doing what society as a whole has told you, this is the right way to do it. This is the successful way to do it. Right. And you become detached from yourself. I think it's just become unfortunately a normal part of the human process. So as a nurse, so I was an ICU nurse, um, which I still have my license, but it's been three years now since I've worked in the hospital because I now do my spiritual coaching full time. But when you're an ICU nurse, you're not just taking care of the patient. You're taking care of the whole family, right? So there's a lot of love and a lot of care and a lot of focus and attention that has to go to the whole unit. It's not just the person, right? And it's not just the body. There are some nurses. Who will look at the patient as a, just a body to take care of. And although that is obviously an important part of it, you're really taught in nursing to take a holistic approach, which is where the spirituality ties in because spirituality is about your holistic self, right? You're not just one component, your mind, body, spirit, you're all three and all three are equally important. You can't have one without the other. It feels like. falls apart, right? So while you're taking care of patients in the ICU and their families, not only are you treating the physical ailments, but you're honestly treating a lot of emotional ailments to whether you realize it or not. It's being the person for your family that is Kind. Being the person for the family who, whether you believe it or not has it all together because they need somebody who is taking charge of the situation who they can look up to. They're going to look at you to find out whether they should be worried or not. Right? So they don't need more worry. They already have worry. So this is where, you know, vibrational suggestions and spirituality come through. There's just so many parallels. It's amazing, where you want to look at your family and exude this feeling of like safety and security and confidence to a certain degree, while still being honest about whatever the prognosis is. But you want to be that kind of pillar of strength, right? Because you want to stay centered and grounded for them. So you're, you're taking care of, you know, the emotional side, the physical side, you're taking care of so much. And you also want to be understanding. Whereas people deal with, Trauma and very different ways, right? Each trauma experience is very unique and you learn that very quickly being a nurse, especially being like an ICU nurse or an ed nurse. You learn that very quickly. Everyone handles grief and trauma in very different ways and every way is okay. So you have to be available to that person to kind of, uh, be that source of stability so they can experience the grief, how they need to experience it. And you're over here doing your job, being the reliable kind of grounded center point that they need. And it's the same thing in spirituality. You for yourself, though, have to be that reliable centered grounded person, which is where nature comes in and all that, you know, you can use to recenter and remind yourself, you know, where your center is, because sometimes we forget. You have to be that for yourself while the rest of the parts of you are out here, figuring it out, dealing with your grief, dealing with your trauma, letting yourself process how you need to process, because just like, How I took care of my ICU families there was no one way to take care of every family. Just like there's no one way to go through a spiritual awakening or spiritual journey. Right? Every way is okay. Every way is fine. And you just have to allow it to unfold how it's going to unfold. So the word spiritual awakening, this is something that we hear more about. I think it's becoming more spoken about globally, not necessarily mainstream. When you use these spiritual awakening, What are you saying? Yeah, well, let me ask my spirit guides for help on that one because that's a pretty deep question, isn't it? That's such a good one. So spiritual awakening to me just means. Allowing yourself to have a greater awareness of everything that's around you. That's all that that means. And I would like to say that spirituality is not religion. Those are two very separate things. You can be religious and you can be spiritual, but they're not reliant on one another. So while I consider myself extremely spiritual, I am not at all religious. I used to be, I used to go to church and I've had that. Experience, you know, that part of my life, but I feel like I've expanded myself to include more than religion at this point, which I'm not bashing on religion. If religion fits for you, then it fits for you. And that's beautiful. And I love it. It just didn't fit for me for the continuation of my journey. It's not going to fit for everyone, but it does fit for some. So it's. You know, take what resonates and leave the rest, right? That mantra that I always say to everybody, because you want to find what fits for your path and what fits for your path may not necessarily fit for other people's paths. And that is absolutely okay. So for me, a spiritual awakening just means. Allowing yourself to bring in more around you, opening yourself up, right, taking the blinders off and just seeing what else is out there. I love that. I would like to circle back to the word you use. I think while you were talking about your nursing about miracles. It was when you're talking about seeds, seeds being little miracles, and I feel like it applies to each, each facet of this conversation, but, but seeing, I think when you're creating, you're opening up your awareness. To the possibilities and what's around you during a spiritual awakening, I think you're more open to notice the miracles in everyday life that are happening all around us. That's exactly right. Yeah, because when you're, you're focused and you have those blinders on, right? The miracles are happening, whether you notice them or not, but when the blinders are on, you're just not noticing them. Right? So if you want to expand your awareness and expand your consciousness. That's why it's important to drop the blinders. It's okay. Can feel safe to drop the blinders. This is where I tell my clients to Uh, decide if they want to be the observer of a situation or the participant, right? You can observe the reality around you, your external environment, and not participate. You can watch something happen that you don't prefer and say, yeah, that's not for me. And then you just turn your focus somewhere else. Just because you observe it does not mean it needs to become a part of your reality. It just means you now have the option to take that on as your own or to let it go and let somebody else have it. Right. I can't help it. I had this little picture in my mind of a little tiny Sam with these big eyes being curious and just observing the world. I love curiosity and I think curiosity is a tool in what you just described. It really is. Yeah, I was as a child and really still to this day, my curiosity was insatiable. Just you cannot quench it. Right? I just have always loved learning. I mean, I've got a book tattoo on my arm because I'm obsessed with books. I've got a little mini library that I just love, love, love. It brings me so much joy. I just. I'm so curious about just everything all of the time. And I feel like that's really driven me to want to drop the blinders because I wanted to learn about other perspectives and other ideas. Right. And those led me down this very interesting path of spiritual awakening for myself of just being driven from curiosity, right? Like wondering, well, what's this about over here that this person saying. So Sam, talk to us a little bit about, why somebody would need to work with you? Why they come to you? I seem to be a bridge for many people. I think that was the agreement that, my soul planned before I incarnated here. I can be that bridge for your quantum healing, really. And what I mean by quantum healing as all those little micro changes that result in the big changes that you see, because the big changes don't happen without the little micro changes happening before them. Right? So I seem to be that vibrational bridge, that vibrational suggestion of when people get close in my circle through my classes or my membership or my mastermind or whatever it is, right? They can remember what it feels like to feel a certain way that feels better. And then once they're reminded, then they just take one step forward and then another step forward. And then, and then all of a sudden, they're in this beautiful open pasture where everything is at their fingertips and they can choose whatever direction they want. Sometimes we just have to remember. What I really like to do with people is, just to help them grow. There's so many different ways that we can do that, but I freaking love helping people grow. It makes me so excited, right? That moment when you can see in a client's eyes, Oh my God, I get it. Right. And you can see, I can literally see their energy change. Oh, it's just the best. It's the best. And I just get so freaking excited for them because I remember what it was like when I had that feeling. Right. Oh my gosh. And your whole world just changes in an instant. And you go, Oh my God, I really do have control over my entire reality. And then usually the very next thought is, Oh my God, I have control over my entire reality. And it feels so very big. So, in that moment, I love to be there for that person so they feel like they have a safe, comfortable environment in which they can grow, right, and learn how to stand on their own two legs in a higher vibrational state. And I do that through many different modalities, really. I do have a membership. Where you get me live on zoom twice a month, where we talk about different, uh, spiritual topics, right? Sometimes I bring a guest speakers, but that's a good way to help people with consistency who aren't so good with the consistency. Like, they want to learn about more spiritual stuff and they want to be more spiritual, but they just like, forget because life gets busy. So we meet twice a month. They're recorded. You have access on the website for all the past ones. If you happen to miss one, if you're busy that evening or whatever, that is a really, really good one for expanding your consciousness because we talk about all kinds of things. It's so fun. And then I have, group classes and group courses, right? Depending on the length, which will teach you about very specific pointed spiritual topics, right? So there's a spirit guide course, which is available on my website, actually free available on my website with a promo code. It's a five day course on how to talk to your spirit guides because so many people want to get connected. How many do I have? What do they look like? What are their names? These are questions I get. All the time. And so people want to know this stuff. So it's out there and it's available on my website, spiritualitywithsam. com. It's available and ready to go. And then spiritual awakening course, which covers all of the aspects, which you were in the spiritual awakening course. That was my first experience with you. I I'm going to jump in and interrupt right now. That was, it was so delicious. Being in this space, listening to people ask really weird, weird stuff and making it normal to be weird. It was so cool. I love gathering community and there's something that I resonate so deeply with is that you love to grow and cause people to grow and while I'm not doing what you're doing, I do it a little bit more 1 on 1, you know, working with my private clients. But. I love to teach by sharing what I learn and whether it has anything to do with my work or not, it just feels so good to ask the questions, not be afraid if they're crazy or stupid or really outlandish. There is no dumb question. There is no dumb question. And that's what makes you such a powerful leader is. Because you have made it safe to ask crazy stuff. Oh my gosh. Yes. The weirder your questions, the more excited I get. Somebody prefaces a question with, okay, I've got a weird one. I'm immediately like, go on. Yes. The cool stuff is in the weirdness, right? Your freedom is in the weirdness. That's that's where it's fun. We've forgotten. Most of us have, as we've grown into adulthood, that life is supposed to be fun. We're supposed to be goofy and silly and weird because that's authentic. So I have a favorite expression that you almost said verbatim. Mine is roots before branches. When you're talking about rooting and growing up, I really didn't know much about reincarnation or anything like that or past lives, but I, but I accepted the term old soul, which implies we've been around longer than our physical bodies have and we're part of spirit. And so where I'm going with this is I had a one on one with you. That was such a beautiful benchmark is the one I'm looking for because you helped me gain more awareness of where I come from. And I've learned a lot since then a lot. And I, I just have to say, I give you my deepest appreciation and gratitude for being that landing spot. I really need it in order to keep growing So thank you. Thank you. Oh, thank you. I hold that with so much gratitude. So thank you. It genuinely is my pleasure to do this, you know, and I know a lot of people say that, but it really is. I have so much fun doing this and so many days I just am in shock that this is my job that I get to do this every day with people because it's just the freaking best. So something you may have talked about on social and maybe I missed it is what happened. Where is that gap? Where's the gap of information where you go from being the ICU nurse to where you are today? What happened that helped you make the switch. can you share that story? Yeah, I'd be happy to. For me, I was more like a pressure cooker, right? You can only ignore who you truly are for so long before you just. Implode in upon yourself, right? I feel like everybody knows that. And that's what I was doing. I was a very successful ICU nurse. I was traveling. I was working in the most difficult assignments and honestly, it was fun. I was good at it. I was enjoying myself, you know, to a certain degree and then the pandemic hit. And that is where, for many of us, right, their pressure cooker just couldn't take it anymore. And we just, it just exploded or imploded in my case, right? I just, I woke up one morning, not wanting to go to work. And that was such a stark change for me because I love my patients. But during the pandemic, I didn't feel like I was a nurse anymore. I felt like I was just the head of a morgue. To be honest with you, it was so sad. Everyone was dying. They were all dying. No matter what we did, no matter what their ages were, no matter how healthy they were before they got sick. This was before we had a vaccine. They were all just dying. And it was so depressing. I mean, they were young. There's a particular patient, which for HIPAA, I won't say her name, but she was 20 years old. And she didn't make it and she had the longest, most terrible course before she passed away. And for some reason, that was my, she was my catalyst. She was my catalyst. She died shortly after I stopped that assignment and moved from 1 state to another state because I took assignments in different states, you know, where the, the most help was needed for the, and Because of my experience, I became a covert nurse and so I was just sent from 1 to another. And so she died shortly after I left that that assignment and the next assignment I was at was my last long distance assignment because I woke up 1 morning on that assignment thinking I don't want to go to work anymore. I'm not making a difference. This isn't working. What we have been doing isn't working. There's got to be another way. And that question right there of. Is there a better way? Like, there's got to be a better way was that my entire moment. That was my like, core memory that just sent me forward in a more positive direction. I stopped applying to grad schools. I was actively applying to grad schools for anesthesia. I was going to be a nurse anesthetist, which I love anesthesia. That's so fun. But it was no longer my path, right? I had outgrown this particular profession, much to my dismay, because I had a whole 10 year plan set up for myself. I'm a planner, right? I've got a strong personality and I love to plan. I love to have a good plan in place. And all of a sudden I realized, well, if I don't want to do this, I definitely don't want to do that. Why would I go to grad school for three years, right? And struggle to make ends meet while I have two kids because you can't work while you're in that level of grad school. If I don't want the outcome, why would I do that? If I don't want to do this anymore. So then I just stopped that whole train much to the dismay of some of my other friends who were also applying to grad school. And I said, what else can I do? And then I started to awaken this. Dormant side of me, right? That I made dormant. No one else did that. I did that by choice thinking I was trying to become, you know, a strong, independent woman of the world. When I realized in that moment, I don't really want to be a woman of the world. I want to be a woman of myself I no longer was trying to be the person that I thought I should be. And instead I started being the person that I wanted to be. And that is what awakened me to my whole journey. I started diving into this intuition that I know I've always had. I've always had precog ability. So I'd started diving into that. I started just opening myself up and exploring the world of spirituality. I fully took off the blinders. And said, let me just dive in and figure out all of this. I started learning about tarot and crystals and psychics and right. All of the things that are taboo in mainstream society. And I was like, but there's something here, right? There's something here. I couldn't put my finger on it. I didn't know what it was and I didn't know then in the moment, but now hindsight, it was my intuition awakening back up going, yes, this feels good. Let's go this way. And I just fully explored those things. And then I just. In a matter of two and a half months, I think I had this explosion of growth, right? I started reading spiritual based books. Again, I started watching people on social media that I kind of vibe with that. I got a good feeling from, I started learning from them. I started, I got opened up to the world of Dolores cannon and Bashar and all these things I'd never heard of. Right. I started reading the law of attraction by Abraham Hicks again, which I had read that. Oh, gosh, probably 15 years prior to that I moment I had read that book and it didn't quite sink in. I was like, this is good. Like, I can see this, but I was still too much trying to fit into the world. So, it didn't fit in with what I thought the world should be right. It didn't quite fit in. So, it just kind of got put in the back burner of my mind until I started this awakening. And then I was reminded of that book and I go, oh, my goodness. And I read it. With new eyes, and then I read it again and I read it again. I read that book three times and then I finally go, oh, my goodness, this is it. It's just like, every time I read that book, or even a new spiritual book, it's like, I felt one step closer to who I truly was and it just, there's no other way to describe this other than it felt correct. I've been a very successful nurse. I was making extremely good money. Hospitals were literally fighting over themselves to get me to come work for them. And I wasn't the only nurse in that position, but I definitely was one of them, so from the world point of view, I was highly successful, but I was miserable. And I said, if this is what success is, that's, I don't want that. I'm so unhappy. So then when I let go of that view of this is what I feel like I should be in the world and just started paying attention to what brought me joy, what made me happy, right? I was able to let go of all of that stuff. I'm relating to you on so many levels of that, this being my second career and, and just having to come to that breakdown moment where you just have to say enough is enough. Yeah, mine was not a pandemic. It was literally being bullied by H. R. Oh, gosh, to leave a teaching job. They didn't want me to leave, but they were bullying me at the same time. And I'm not going to rehash it, but I was going to say it took that pain for me to be willing to make a change. So that's where pain can actually be a gift. A miracle. Pain always is a gift and a miracle. And many people don't view it as that. But when you're feeling something that's uncomfortable or painful, that's your cue that that situation is not in alignment with you, right? It's not going to bring you down a path that can feel good. Yes. Because you can't get peace from chaos. You can't pull it out. It doesn't exist in chaos, right? So you have got to find a new direction. It's just simply showing you, Hey, you need to turn here. Right. Don't go straight. You need to turn. Right. Just like physical pain. It's your body sending you messages that something needs attention. Yeah. Right. Yeah. If you had your hand on a stove and it hurt, you wouldn't go, it's okay. The pain will go away eventually. Right. I'm just going to keep my hand on here because the world says I'm supposed to keep my hand on here. No, you take it. There is no hand left. Right. I know. Right. And that's what happens in the world, isn't it? Right. People work themselves to death until they have nothing of themselves left because they kept their hand on instead of listening to their own gut instincts, their own intuition and going, that hurts. I don't like it. I don't care if everyone around me is saying you should do that. I don't like it. So I'm going to make a different choice. Yeah. Should is a tough word. You got to stop shoulding all over ourselves. Oh my gosh. I know. I know the best thing that I can ever teach somebody. And it usually takes a little while to get there is you've got to go through life, having no expectations. Right? Focusing on the joy and having no expectations, which I'm a type A personality. So if you were to tell me five years ago to have no expectations, I would have laughed you right into tomorrow. All right, Sam, it's as if you heard my podcast that dropped. Today, and I know you haven't had time to do where I talked about releasing expectations. So I think this is like the perfect follow up conversation. And yeah, what would it look like to release our expectations and to understand that. My kids are not going to run the house like I did when I was away, they're not going to do it. That's them. You know, my expectations of, of finding the perfect house on the first flight down to Florida, you know, you got, there's so much freedom when we release expectations and doing that has made me far more intuitive. Yes. Yes. Not that I'm more, but I'm more tapped in. Yes. Exactly. Yes. Yeah. It's exactly right. Yeah. When you can learn how to not have expectations when entering into a situation, that's when you have the whole universe available at your fingertips. But when you walk into a situation going, it has to look and feel exactly like this or I don't want it. If you kind of pigeonhole yourself like that, you are telling the universe, I know better than you. Right from a very limited perspective, and I only want it to go this way when the universe is trying to give you something so much better. Right? It's, it's like a parent trying to give their child, right? This beautiful pastry that was made by this very talented baker. And the child goes, no, I want a pop tart. And the parents like, but this is going to taste so much better. Will you trust me? Will you try it? No, I want the pop tart. That's what I'm focused on. That's what I feel like my treat should be. Right. Yeah. So they cut themselves off from the opportunity of discovering something new and something better. Right. Oh my gosh. This is so juicy. We can go in. I could go on another hour with you easily. Um, but. But just to wrap this up with a bow for now, and I hope you will come back. I hope we can continue to do this. I would love to. Yummy. Thank you. Sam, how do you picture love? I picture love as many things as an opportunity, as we grow, I picture love as that comfortable, safe feeling, but both at the same time, right? Not an opportunity or comfortable, safe feeling. It's a space. Love, when you can feel it for yourself, provides you a space that feels safe and feels cozy while allowing yourself to explore new things, discover new things, and expand yourself. Love is, love is who you are. Right. Love is the opportunity to just keep being more of who you are. Sam, I just say, I appreciate you just not covering it, but I'm trusting you receive it. Yes. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you for having me. Friends. If you liked this episode, you're going to love the fact that there is a part two. Part of this conversation with Sam today. She was very generous with some tools that she offers her clients and her students. And so I thought they were so valuable. They deserve to be their own episode so that you can continue on and listen to the episode with spirituality, Sam on using mantras to have the best. Possible outcomes. So check your podcast player for a bonus episode this week on Thursday. Until then.